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T O P I C R E V I E WRainbow~High School Teacher "Muzzled" And Suspended For Saying 911 Was An Inside JobMay 18, 2006By Greg SzymanskiThe screws are being tightened down hard on free thought, free will and free speech in today's fascist America even substitute high school teachers are being treated like common thought criminals.It's bad enough teachers are paid slave wages, but now it appears the "slaves" of America's floundering public education system are even being told by their "masters" what to say, do and think.And Thomas Mustric, a substitute teacher in the Columbus, Ohio, public school system found out the hard way that saying 911 was a government inside job on school grounds is absolutely prohibited in the Bush crime family's version of modern day America.Mustric was put on administrative leave last week after the 911 comment made in a high school lunch room landed him in hot water with school "Gestapo" authorities. The incident blew up into a suspension of Mustric's livelihood after his casual comments made to another teacher in a lunchroom were passed on to the administration by the teacher who decided to rat on Mustric, considering his views a threat to the student body.A school board hearing on Mustric's statements scheduled for Monday but a finding which could lead to his firing was delayed pending further investigation. The story broke on a Columbus NBC local television affiliate, but the story was not posted on the station's web site. In an interview with school officials, an official statement on the matter was released, saying in part:"He had told her (the teacher in the lunchroom) that 911 was planned and orchestrated by the U.S. government. If these ideas are delusions, I believe Mr. Mustric should not be allowed to teach in schools where students would gullibly believe his statements."Mustric was unavailable for comment after repeated calls by the Arctic Beacon went unanswered, but Mustric released an email statement to cross-country traveling activist, Amy Sasser, saying:"Thank you for your kind support in the context of free speach. There is no way that a private conversation where the questioner did not like the answers to her questions is anyway like someone screaming "fire" in a theater. "I expect that the Columbus Board of Education's pre-hearing decision will find that all of her allegations that caused me to lose seven days of work were unfounded. I am shocked to my very foundation---for a social studies teacher not to show up at the hearing, nor have I been given a copy of her complaint prior to hearing or to this writing---something is very wrong, where the slow release of discovery (the Complaint) is released so slowly as not to be available in a copy for me to read prior to hearing, during hearing, or after hearing---although it was promised, but when?"Sasser, who travels the country trying to rally America before it's too late, told the Arctic Beacon this is just another clear sign of the lock down on free speech in America, while adding her encouragement and support to Mustric:"We know 911 was an inside job, keep the faith, Mr Mustric. You are another hero in our eyes! Bravo." http://www.arcticbeacon.com/18-May-2006.html Petronomg!!! "gestapo authorities"????this author is blatantly and hysterically anti-American-education!!!i dont believe any of this even happened....just a bunch of propaganda from an America hater..... pidauaHmmm, Petron, don't you get tired of twisting my words and then creating your own story?I absolutely believe that this happened and I am happy that it did.So what is this about being an America Hater?What's that? Gotta try and do a quick search on here to see if you can't find something to contradict me? Wehn it comes to trying to prove me wring you must get the biggest, hardest... well... Happy searching. Rainbow~"Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..."Yup! All leftist, commie, lies....Lies, lies and more lies.... Rainbow~Sometimes I think we're beyond all hope!pidauaThis guy has quite an extensive past in his hatred towards America and Bush. It goes beyond him just being a regular teachers, spending days going over lesson plans, correcting papers for $40,000 per year (oh wait, that is for 9 months with a total of 3 months off). September 11, 2001About 6 Months before 9-11 Date: 12/24/2004 7:59 AM EST Author: thomas mustric (tommustric@yahoo.com) In Columbus, Ohio, just outside former Mayor Lashutka's office, I met an Air-Force Officer, who stated that he was very upset. After introductions---I stated that I had a background in NSP [national security policy studies], he stated:1) he was in charge of the computers at Wright Patterson Air Force base,2) that the mayor in Colulmbus Ohio and Dayton (WPAFB) would not see him.3) that the Ohio Governor Taft would not see him either. He was upset and for good reasons:He stated to me that "an Arab owned computer company out side of Cincinnati, Ohio was allowed access to his Wight Patterson Air Force Base's computers and allowed to download all the intelligence on all our airports."He gave me his name and the name of the computer company. Which when I got home I filed in my office.Shortly afterwards (about 2 weeks), my home was illegally entered and the file contents removed. I filed a police report.Respectfully submitted:Thomas Mustric134 East Lincoln StreetColubmus, Ohio 43215(614) 424-6644Political AnthropologistGreat Decision Facillator for over 12 years and executive director for central Ohio.OSU(grad 1969), other study at GWU, GU, JohnsHopkin SAIS in WDC.Interest area Middle East, President Founder and Chairman of the Board of .I thought readers may want to know._________As far as my comment about statements made that are inflammatory in nature: Calling the teacher a "Slave" and the administration "Master" is a slam to African Americans as it equates the lawful right to teach and get paid to a people that were forced to perform labor, treated like chattel, and left to die when ill. Calling the School Board the Gestapo for dramatic effect again, equates the School Board to Nazi's that rounded up those of Jewish decent, mentally challenged and handicap..etc.. to force into concentration camps to be murdered. Last time I checked this guy wasn't being sent to the "showers". I'm thinking if a person cannot see the SLANT by this author, then the blinders must be on and fully enforce. Rainbow~When an American citizen is "happy" to see "gestapo tacticts" used on one of us who thought we had the right of free speech (is it NOT in our constitution?).......I see the NWO plan is moving right along on schedule...to my sadness... Yes, we may be beyond all hope....pidauaYep.. there you go again Rainbow. You chose to apply my "happy" as an endorsement for Gestapo tactics. Instead I am happy for his being dismissed over stating something offensive, on public school property (where yes, what you say is regulated as it is OWNED by the taxpayers which is why a teacher is also not allowed to discuss a graphic sexual act to another without fear of being dismissed or reprimanded). The same would hold true if Mr. Mustric was a PRO-Bush supporter and stated to another teacher "We should kill all those that oppose Bush and 9-11 was a result of socialistic Americans allowing our government to get soft on terrorism"I work in the school system and we have TONS of guidelines and THIS is the very issue I was talking about when I told you people have to watch what they say or do as it is offensive. Basically to repeat something or e-mail it is to endorse it. THAT IS what we are taught in government and in public schools. It keeps teachers from holding back a student that doesn't subscribe to their beliefs..etc...But You CHOSE to apply "gestapo" tactics to me. Meaning that I promote them. I am in wonder as to how you can allow yourself to make that kind of judgment without knowing the context. Do you think it would have been better to ask me to clarify?Ah well, I am really not surprised.. it is just so ingrained in your nature to automatically jump to a conclusion. ~PidauaRainbow~Pid...I was going to not reply to any of your comments anymore...but must make an exception here.My son is a teacher and also works in the school system...so you don't have to "explain" it to me...Okay?pidauaWell then you should know better now shouldn't you instead of jumping to conclusions? My brother is also a teacher and seems to do pretty well. Then again, he is in a State that has always mandated teacher testing in their required subjects so that they are qualified to teach. Other states that fought the NCLB are usually those that had an abundance of teachers teaching subjects like Math, Science, Language, yet continiously failed the competency tests. So, what is it Rainbow? You are aware of the standards in behaviour because your son is a teacher but you chose to advocate breaking rules or you just wanted to use this opportunity to accuse me of supporting gestapo tactics?You don't have to respond- I'll wait until someone else does, get into a discussion with them, then you'll come out with one of your quipy little phrases in support of them. Cycles are so beautifully predictable. jwhopSomeone needs to explain to teachers and school administrators that their jobs are to educate children...not foist their radical political propaganda and agenda on students.pidauaYou are exactly right jwhop. The left praises when teachers are admonished / dismissed for voicing any kind of support for the government, Church or against liberalism. Yet they whine, cry, call people Nazi's when one of their own gets dismissed for their political, anti-religious or anti-American views. Petronive never heard of a teacher being suspended for making a political comment to another teacher in a lunchroom.....let alone being dismissed for "voicing any kind of support for the government" ...when did that happen pidaua??pidauaOh, so because you didn't hear it, then it didn't happen. Why don't you do a search sweetie... your so good with google and all. Petroni did.....pidauaI'll help you:This teacher was fired ON HER OWN TIME -for voicing her support for Terri Shaivo and the right to live (a very political debate if you remember)Teacher Fired For Supporting Terri On Own TimeFrom Dee Rohedrrohe@bellsouth.net12-7-3The former PVS patient who was almost killed, but later recovered, Rus Cooper-Dowda, is being FIRED for speaking favorably of Terri outside of a work setting, and on her own time! For her background, see Rus Cooper-Douda's astonishing article, "When I Woke Up" www.rense.com/general44/woke.htm Old horned Hemlock strikes again. What a slithering snake. We are lighting our candles not just for Terri, but for Rus and others in danger. Dee Rohe __________ Email from Rus Cooper-Dowda I am a Pinellas County, Florida exceptional education teacher with disabilities. I teach middle school students with learning, emotional and behavioral disabilities. I am in my 26th year as a teacher. On the day Terri Schindler-Schiavo's feeding tube was removed this fall, I did a brief interview about the disabled community's take on her possible death for being cognitively-impaired. It was very brief and done off school grounds on my own time. The reporter agreed not to mention in any way that I taught. I said basically that as a Florida woman with disabilities Terri's starving was very scary. The next day administration who had never talked to me before made it clear that I no longer fit in. Then the book I wrote "When I Woke Up..." which included my own Terri-like time in the 1980s, my coverage of her October 2002 hearing and a meditation I delivered as minister at a Terri vigil hit my school campus. After that I couldn't get the most accepted basic support like needed room supplies, memos about meetings, campus police help when any of my kids needed to be removed for violence or assistance for students hurting themselves regularly. Finally, I was given less than a day to hand deliver a resignation for personal reasons or be fired for "not fitting in." At the time I was home recovering from a student attack that could have been prevented if I had only the support other teachers had. I physically could not get the letter in. I would not have resigned anyway. How can a 26 year veteran teacher with disabilities "not fit in" with students who have disabilities? In an effort to force me to resign I was threatened with being fired on tv over and over through December and into January. The administrator was threatening me with firing at the televised school board meeting that is rerun until the next meeting. As a result -- on December 9th at 5 pm only 20 minutes from The hospice where Terri remains in danger, I am being fired for "not fitting in." And indeed, I will be fired many, many times in reruns in between hours of new and old holiday student performances. My contract specifically prohibits being fired for the reasons I am being fired. So, there you go. Rus Cooper-Dowda uudre@aol.com The teacher, "Rus Cooper-Dowda" is mentioned in a 11/6/03 news article (linked below). At one time she was in what doctors incorrectly decided was a vegetative state and planned to remove her feeding tube too. http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-usschi023527678nov06,0,3738951.story?coll=ny-health-headlines Disabled Rally Around Terri Schiavo By Hugo Kugiya STAFF WRITER November 6, 2003 Unable to speak and barely able to move, Rus Cooper-Dowda could do little to prevent her death. Only 30, she had developed a serious form of lupus that had left her in what doctors incorrectly thought was a vegetative state. She knew the doctors and nurses had all but given up on her because she could still hear. She said later that she listened to them describe her prognosis as hopeless. They said that she would never live a normal life and that if she took a turn for the worse, no extraordinary measures should be attempted to save her life. Contrary to their expectations, Cooper-Dowda, now 48, survived. Over the years, she recovered some use of her body, earned a graduate degree and gave birth to a son who recently entered college. Doctors couldn't explain why her condition got so bad 18 years ago, nor why it improved so much, she said. Which is why she thinks Terri Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged St. Petersburg, Fla., woman, should be helped, not left to die. "People say she'll never fully recover," said Cooper-Dowda, a writer and teacher from Florida. "My feeling is, 'So what?' There is something between death and full recovery, and it's called living with a disability." She is one of many disabled people who see Schiavo as a cause mirroring their own, even if their medical circumstances differ. (Cooper-Dowda was incapacitated for months, not 13 years like Schiavo.) Individually, they have spoken out. Last week, they took a collective stand. "This is a real scary prospect for us, because there are lots of disabled people who can't communicate verbally," said Andy Imparato, president of the American Association of People with Disabilities. Imparato and association board members, with the blessing of other disabled rights groups, released a written statement condemning the court's decision to allow Michael Schiavo to remove his wife's feeding tube. Such action should be confined, the statement said, "to those situations in which an individual's condition is terminal, death is imminent and any continuation or provision of treatment, nutrition and/or hydration would only serve to prolong dying ... " "No one other than Ms. Schiavo, not even a guardian, has the right to make assumptions about the quality of her life," the statement continued. While Schiavo's case has been seen largely as an issue of the sanctity of life versus personal choice, of conservative against liberal, of religious values against secular ones, the concerns of disabled people are more nuanced and personal and do not depend so much on politics or ideology. "To us, it's more complex," Imparato said. Although doctors disagree on her condition, a state court determined that Schiavo, 39, is in an irreversible and permanent vegetative state. After her husband received permission to remove her feeding tube, her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, harnessing the momentum of public outcry, convinced lawmakers and the governor to help. In less than 48 hours, the Legislature passed a bill giving Gov. Jeb Bush the authority to order the tube replaced, which he did Oct. 21. Michael Schiavo is fighting the law in court, charging that it interfered with his wife's right to refuse medical treatment and that it violated the state constitution by passing a law that defied a court order. While she was incapacitated, Cooper-Dowda tried to communicate by writing in the air with her finger. When she heard doctors discussing the removal of life support, she tried to spell the word "no." She even spelled it backward in hopes they would recognize it as a word. Doctors decided her movement was seizure activity and sedated her. The more she moved, the more she was sedated. Finally, a nurse became curious and put ink on the end of Cooper-Dowda's finger, so she could write the letter Y or N, for yes and no. "It's still terrifying how close I came to death," Cooper-Dowda said, "because of all the assumptions someone else made about the quality of my life. ... When someone says, 'I wouldn't want to live like that,' it's believing it will never happen to you. When it does, it's not a bad life or a useless life. It's a changed life." Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc. ___________________________________________ Contact the Pinellas County School Board: Open to Public: Anyone can speak for 3 minutes by signing a speaker's slip by 4:45 pm. Signs without sticks are permitted. Address: Pinellas County School Administration Building Conference Hall 301 4th Street SW Largo, Florida 33770 Televised live with reruns on WPDS GTE Americast channel 14 Time Warner Channel 14 If you want to protest: Board@pcsb.org 727-586-1818 Pinellas County School Board 301 4th St. SW Largo, FL 33770 Members of the Pinellas County School Board: Dr. J. Howard Hinesley Superintendent Jane Gallucci Chair Carol Cook Vice-Chair Board Member most likey to be unhappy about this: Linda Lerner Rest of Board: Mary Russell Nancy Bostock Mary Brown Lee Benjamin We still have a lot to be thankful for! Let us hold an attitude of gratitude and appreciation for all who are working to save precious lives! - Including Terri's! Terri's Links http://heavenlyhands.net/terrislinks.html Here a teacher gets fired for forwarding or responding to an e-mail (County and school policy mandates that anything offensive, whether it be in the lunch room or the class room can be considered a means for dismissal)» Jonnie Hargis, an employee at the Young Research Library at UCLA, received an e-mail from co-worker Michelle Torre that was sent to other employees at the library. The e-mail contains "America: The Good Neighbor," a speech written by Canadian Gordon Sinclair in the early 1970's. Hargis responded to the e-mail by calling into question U.S. support of policies by Israel against Palestinians. Hargis was subsequently suspended without pay for 5 days for violating a policy that forbids sending unsolicited e-mails containing political, religious or patriotic messages to library department lists. That policy was created the same day that Hargis was suspended and Torre received no disciplinary action. Hargis' union has since filed a grievance with the University http://www.ncac.org/issues/freeex911.cfm Keep in mind Petron, I am citing not just those that have been let go for voicing political beliefs in support of Conservative issues but also those teachers that have been dismissed for supporting Liberal issues. I suppose you may turn this around and say 'yes, but I asked about the words being specifically exchanged in the "lunchroom"'pidauaHere's another view point - but from a student in College PAYING to attend school and having to deal with more liberalism shoved down her throat. There's a reason why the teachers union donates a signicant amount of their money to the Democrat party:Colorado Hearing: Evidence that History Professors Are BiasedFrom frontpagemag.com (Feb. 6, 2004): Last June, David Horowitz visited Colorado and suggested to lawmakers that an Academic Bill of Rights was needed to protect students from faculty abuses. In the months that followed, Students for Academic Freedom Clubs were formed across the state and began gathering evidence of these abuses. Colorado Senate President John Andrews then sent a letter to every college president in the state asking them to provide statements describing their protections for students and detailing any problems on their campuses. At the same time, he convened an ad hoc legislative committee to hear from students and faculty members about whether academic freedom is adequately being protected on state-supported colleges and universities. The hearings were held on December 18. Despite the fact that the hearings took place when most universities were in the midst of final exams, more than 30 students showed up to testify. Congregating on the third floor committee room in the Colorado State Capitol, they were joined by media representatives, college administrators, legislators, and members of the public at large. Frontpagemag.com has obtained transcripts of this two-and-a-half-hour hearing. They reveal an environment of bias and hostility towards conservative viewpoints on Colorado campuses. We see many examples: a professor insisting that student Republicans withdraw from the Political Science Association; a professor teaching one-sided history class in which students were told that Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were "martyrs" and that Stalin was a victim of U.S. persecution; a student skipping classes out of fear of the professor's tactic of ridiculing and humiliating conservative students in front of the class, and so on. Readers can decide for themselves whether an Academic Bill of Rights is in order for Colorado schools . - Editors ANNE CLODFELTER: I would like to thank the committee and the president and the senators' representatives for listening to my statement. I'd just like to read something I wrote up. I am a sophomore from Metro State College and I am currently pursuing a history major. I am working towards a career as a historian, researcher, or even a college professor and I am concerned about the level of liberal bias towards lawmakers and presidents in history that I see in my school. Those professors are excellent teachers and it is a pleasure to be taught by them. However, some professors see the classroom as an instrument with which to liberally indoctrinate the students. The professor has, in my American History, in the fall semester of 2003, was a very qualified teacher. At that time, there was no room in her class for conservative points of view. Every day, she used the classroom as a sounding board and she insulted the president whose policies are those of Republican lawmakers. One day she got up in front of the class and told us that the president could not be an historian and be a Republican. This hurt me very much because I am a conservative and I want to be a historian. Another time, she got up in front of the class and said that President Bush started the Iraqi war because he got a hard-on. I thought this was a very inappropriate way to be talking about the president. Instead of spending on history, my professor spends a significant amount of time lecturing on current programs of the Republicans and the president. When my peers or I tried arguing and tried to question or argue against her ideas, she ridiculed them, leaving the person feeling humiliated in front of the class. One of my more outspoken conservative peers began skipping classes because as she told the teacher, she was afraid to come to class. The teacher refused to acknowledge the student's fears. The political talk is one thing, I would not have to deal with her after the class is over, but I had a hard time dealing with political bias towards history. The books she chose for the class called President Reagan's philosophy on the use of tax cuts to boost the economy, quote, “a naïve plan.” When tax cuts worked to boost the economy, the book stated it was, quote, “Good luck.” The book and the teacher portrayed the Rosenberg's as martyrs, and Stalin and his successors in the Soviet Union as persecuted by the United States. This bias towards history affected me as a history major because I want to leave college with an understanding of the conservative viewpoints of history as well as the liberal ones. I want to get the whole picture. I am deeply discouraged about the idea of becoming a college professor because of what I see on campus. The severe lack of conservative faculty at my college and the way the conservative faculty is treated have led me to believe that I will have a hard time finding a position if I do decide to become a college professor. I have given serious thought about teaching at the collegiate level, but currently I do not see this as a realistic possibility until hiring and firing practices is free from discrimination. The majority of professors on campus are good teachers, they leave their biases out of the classroom. College professors like the one I had this Fall need to be made accountable for their statements and how it affects their students. Professors are already made accountable for how they treat minority students in their classrooms. I do not think that the way they treat students with different political affiliations should be any different. SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Of course you recognize that a history text or any book of history that takes a dissembling view about the history of the Cold War or the effect of Reagan's economic policies has just as much right in the curriculum as any other book. You recognize that, don't you ma'am? ANNE CLODFELTER: Yes. SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: You mentioned hiring and firing practices needing to be free of discrimination in order for a student like yourself to want to pursue a career in teaching in higher education. Do you have any firsthand instances or specifics that would make you believe there is such discrimination, because the written policy summary submitted to me by all the presidents emphasize that there is not supposed to be any such discrimination on the basis of one's political or religious beliefs in being hired, fired or promoted in the faculty? Do you have anything to the contrary that would be specific? ANNE CLODFELTER: How I see they have treated, the way they treated this professor and also how I have seen that there are not a lot of conservative faculty and I'm just thinking that just as many conservative faculty would want to be teachers as liberal faculty, and I just think that, I mean, some people think that most liberals would want to be teachers, but I still think that there should be more conservative faculty, but… SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Thank you. ANNE CLODFELTER: It just seems like it... SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Yes, Representative Paccione. REPRESENTATIVE PACCIONE: Thank you, Mr. President. I'm just curious to know how you know the number of conservative faculty in the university? SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Anne? ANNE CLODFELTER: All the teachers I've had so far seem to have a very liberal point of view. I even had a teacher that has come up to me and had a conservative point of view. They all seem to have, they made quotes about the president, quotes about politics, just on the side, usually on the side, with the students just offhand remarks that pretty much dictates that they are liberal faculty and so far I haven't had a teacher that hadn't done that and now it just gives me pretty much a perspective that none of them are conservative. SENATOR ANDREWS: Let me just point out one other thing I heard you say. You had mentioned having to sit in a classroom and listen to insults against the President and members of Congress and State Legislatures and I can't speak for Congress and the president, but we as state legislators are fairly well insult-proof here, so not a concern. http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/3381.html jwhop Thanks for posting that story Pid.I never even heard about any of that Pid and I live in Pinellas County.Good example of administrators and school boards silencing those they disagree with.All across America, teachers and administrators are getting away with propagandizing students...in the classrooms.On college campuses, professors are dishing out a steady stream of leftist twaddle disguised as education and taking punitive actions against anyone in the class who dares voice a differing opinion.Conservative speakers are discouraged by administration or banned outright. Student protests of conservative speakers are organized and led by activist professors and administration is mum.Leftist BS can't stand even the slightest examination or review. Their only option is to silence any dissent and that's exactly the way it works in socialist and communist societies. They execute dissenters. In the US, leftist professors retaliate with failing grades or attempts to browbeat students into submission to their bullsh*t.There have been attempts by leftists to silence dissent from their leftist twaddle here too. Unsuccessfully. DayDreamerI know of some Canadian history, civics teachers who've freely discussed this topic in their classrooms...and yes with their students. Surprising this can't even be discussed with another adult or teacher.Petroni never specified "words exchanged in a lunchroom", i asked for examples of actions taken for views critical of the u.s. governmentok well im not going to accuse her of lying, but according to this the official reason cited for her being fired was not for supporting terri schiavo.........(no where do i see her claim it was about views critical of the u.s. government)....... quote:(CNSNews.com) - A Pinellas County, Fla., teacher -- who is disabled and works with disabled students- - claims she is being fired because she voiced her support for another disabled Florida woman: Terri Schindler Schiavo.Rus Cooper-Dowda told CNSNews.com Wednesday morning that the Pinellas County School Board voted six-to-one to fire her Tuesday night, citing "job performance" as the reason. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200312%5CCUL20 031210b.html maybe she was fired for supporting terri schiavo, but her main arguments seemed to be against the medical establishment and michael schiavo himself... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1476505 also i would note....if you go back to the terri schaivo case, youll see that it was a republican judge, a bush appointed, republican majority apeals court for florida and a republican florida supreme court who judged 'terris law' unconstitutional.....and who condemned terri to death before the issue went to the u.s. supreme court ...... quote:It was a conservative Republican judge, Stanley Birch, appointed to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals by former President George H.W. Bush, who said this week that Congress and the current President Bush had exceeded constitutional bounds with a law that told courts how to review the Schiavo case. And it was a Supreme Court with a 7-2 Republican majority that repeatedly spurned pleas by Schiavo's parents to reconnect her feeding tube. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/02/MNG8FC2B0S1.DTL also if you remember, people who you deride here as 'leftist twits' or whatever, like rainbow and myself, were completely on the side of terri schiavo....... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001151.html so perhaps that isnt a great example.......on the other hand....you did provide another clear example of a teacher being suspended specifically for views critical of the u.s. government...... Rainbow~DayDreamer tells us..... quote:I know of some Canadian history, civics teachers who've freely discussed this topic in their classrooms...and yes with their students. Surprising this can't even be discussed with another adult or teacherYes, it IS surprising isn't it, DayDreamer? The "thought police" are keeping a close eye on us....and it's getting scarier and scarier.... Some don't notice, though....they acclimate easily to the narrowing latitude and restraints occuring here due to the "social engineering" we've been subjected to...*sigh*I wonder just how far this will go before freedom lovers will start to notice? *sigh* lotusheartoneSo..what you are saying is..that it is okay to lie to children? Oh yeh..and push your politcal view?Love and Respect for ALL. ...Rainbow~What?There's no Santa Clause?No Easter Bunny?No Tooth fairy?boo hoo hoo! Rainbow~Lie to the little children....
May 18, 2006
By Greg Szymanski
The screws are being tightened down hard on free thought, free will and free speech in today's fascist America even substitute high school teachers are being treated like common thought criminals.
It's bad enough teachers are paid slave wages, but now it appears the "slaves" of America's floundering public education system are even being told by their "masters" what to say, do and think.
And Thomas Mustric, a substitute teacher in the Columbus, Ohio, public school system found out the hard way that saying 911 was a government inside job on school grounds is absolutely prohibited in the Bush crime family's version of modern day America.
Mustric was put on administrative leave last week after the 911 comment made in a high school lunch room landed him in hot water with school "Gestapo" authorities.
The incident blew up into a suspension of Mustric's livelihood after his casual comments made to another teacher in a lunchroom were passed on to the administration by the teacher who decided to rat on Mustric, considering his views a threat to the student body.
A school board hearing on Mustric's statements scheduled for Monday but a finding which could lead to his firing was delayed pending further investigation. The story broke on a Columbus NBC local television affiliate, but the story was not posted on the station's web site.
In an interview with school officials, an official statement on the matter was released, saying in part:
"He had told her (the teacher in the lunchroom) that 911 was planned and orchestrated by the U.S. government. If these ideas are delusions, I believe Mr. Mustric should not be allowed to teach in schools where students would gullibly believe his statements."
Mustric was unavailable for comment after repeated calls by the Arctic Beacon went unanswered, but Mustric released an email statement to cross-country traveling activist, Amy Sasser, saying:
"Thank you for your kind support in the context of free speach. There is no way that a private conversation where the questioner did not like the answers to her questions is anyway like someone screaming "fire" in a theater.
"I expect that the Columbus Board of Education's pre-hearing decision will find that all of her allegations that caused me to lose seven days of work were unfounded. I am shocked to my very foundation---for a social studies teacher not to show up at the hearing, nor have I been given a copy of her complaint prior to hearing or to this writing---something is very wrong, where the slow release of discovery (the Complaint) is released so slowly as not to be available in a copy for me to read prior to hearing, during hearing, or after hearing---although it was promised, but when?"
Sasser, who travels the country trying to rally America before it's too late, told the Arctic Beacon this is just another clear sign of the lock down on free speech in America, while adding her encouragement and support to Mustric:
"We know 911 was an inside job, keep the faith, Mr Mustric. You are another hero in our eyes! Bravo." http://www.arcticbeacon.com/18-May-2006.html
this author is blatantly and hysterically anti-American-education!!!
i dont believe any of this even happened....just a bunch of propaganda from an America hater.....
I absolutely believe that this happened and I am happy that it did.
So what is this about being an America Hater?
What's that? Gotta try and do a quick search on here to see if you can't find something to contradict me? Wehn it comes to trying to prove me wring you must get the biggest, hardest... well...
Happy searching.
Yup! All leftist, commie, lies....
Lies, lies and more lies....
September 11, 2001About 6 Months before 9-11 Date: 12/24/2004 7:59 AM EST Author: thomas mustric (tommustric@yahoo.com) In Columbus, Ohio, just outside former Mayor Lashutka's office, I met an Air-Force Officer, who stated that he was very upset. After introductions---I stated that I had a background in NSP [national security policy studies], he stated:
1) he was in charge of the computers at Wright Patterson Air Force base,
2) that the mayor in Colulmbus Ohio and Dayton (WPAFB) would not see him.
3) that the Ohio Governor Taft would not see him either. He was upset and for good reasons:
He stated to me that "an Arab owned computer company out side of Cincinnati, Ohio was allowed access to his Wight Patterson Air Force Base's computers and allowed to download all the intelligence on all our airports."
He gave me his name and the name of the computer company. Which when I got home I filed in my office.
Shortly afterwards (about 2 weeks), my home was illegally entered and the file contents removed. I filed a police report.
Respectfully submitted:
Thomas Mustric
134 East Lincoln Street
Colubmus, Ohio 43215
(614) 424-6644
Political Anthropologist
Great Decision Facillator for over 12 years and executive director for central Ohio.
OSU(grad 1969), other study at GWU, GU, JohnsHopkin SAIS in WDC.
Interest area Middle East, President Founder and Chairman of the Board of .
I thought readers may want to know.
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As far as my comment about statements made that are inflammatory in nature:
Calling the teacher a "Slave" and the administration "Master" is a slam to African Americans as it equates the lawful right to teach and get paid to a people that were forced to perform labor, treated like chattel, and left to die when ill.
Calling the School Board the Gestapo for dramatic effect again, equates the School Board to Nazi's that rounded up those of Jewish decent, mentally challenged and handicap..etc.. to force into concentration camps to be murdered. Last time I checked this guy wasn't being sent to the "showers".
I'm thinking if a person cannot see the SLANT by this author, then the blinders must be on and fully enforce.
Yes, we may be beyond all hope....
I work in the school system and we have TONS of guidelines and THIS is the very issue I was talking about when I told you people have to watch what they say or do as it is offensive. Basically to repeat something or e-mail it is to endorse it. THAT IS what we are taught in government and in public schools. It keeps teachers from holding back a student that doesn't subscribe to their beliefs..etc...
But You CHOSE to apply "gestapo" tactics to me. Meaning that I promote them. I am in wonder as to how you can allow yourself to make that kind of judgment without knowing the context. Do you think it would have been better to ask me to clarify?
Ah well, I am really not surprised.. it is just so ingrained in your nature to automatically jump to a conclusion.
~Pidaua
My son is a teacher and also works in the school system...so you don't have to "explain" it to me...Okay?
So, what is it Rainbow? You are aware of the standards in behaviour because your son is a teacher but you chose to advocate breaking rules or you just wanted to use this opportunity to accuse me of supporting gestapo tactics?
You don't have to respond- I'll wait until someone else does, get into a discussion with them, then you'll come out with one of your quipy little phrases in support of them.
Cycles are so beautifully predictable.
let alone being dismissed for "voicing any kind of support for the government" ...when did that happen pidaua??
This teacher was fired ON HER OWN TIME -for voicing her support for Terri Shaivo and the right to live (a very political debate if you remember)
Teacher Fired For Supporting Terri On Own TimeFrom Dee Rohedrrohe@bellsouth.net12-7-3
The former PVS patient who was almost killed, but later recovered, Rus Cooper-Dowda, is being FIRED for speaking favorably of Terri outside of a work setting, and on her own time! For her background, see Rus Cooper-Douda's astonishing article, "When I Woke Up" www.rense.com/general44/woke.htm Old horned Hemlock strikes again. What a slithering snake. We are lighting our candles not just for Terri, but for Rus and others in danger. Dee Rohe __________ Email from Rus Cooper-Dowda I am a Pinellas County, Florida exceptional education teacher with disabilities. I teach middle school students with learning, emotional and behavioral disabilities. I am in my 26th year as a teacher. On the day Terri Schindler-Schiavo's feeding tube was removed this fall, I did a brief interview about the disabled community's take on her possible death for being cognitively-impaired. It was very brief and done off school grounds on my own time. The reporter agreed not to mention in any way that I taught. I said basically that as a Florida woman with disabilities Terri's starving was very scary. The next day administration who had never talked to me before made it clear that I no longer fit in. Then the book I wrote "When I Woke Up..." which included my own Terri-like time in the 1980s, my coverage of her October 2002 hearing and a meditation I delivered as minister at a Terri vigil hit my school campus. After that I couldn't get the most accepted basic support like needed room supplies, memos about meetings, campus police help when any of my kids needed to be removed for violence or assistance for students hurting themselves regularly. Finally, I was given less than a day to hand deliver a resignation for personal reasons or be fired for "not fitting in." At the time I was home recovering from a student attack that could have been prevented if I had only the support other teachers had. I physically could not get the letter in. I would not have resigned anyway. How can a 26 year veteran teacher with disabilities "not fit in" with students who have disabilities? In an effort to force me to resign I was threatened with being fired on tv over and over through December and into January. The administrator was threatening me with firing at the televised school board meeting that is rerun until the next meeting. As a result -- on December 9th at 5 pm only 20 minutes from The hospice where Terri remains in danger, I am being fired for "not fitting in." And indeed, I will be fired many, many times in reruns in between hours of new and old holiday student performances. My contract specifically prohibits being fired for the reasons I am being fired. So, there you go. Rus Cooper-Dowda uudre@aol.com The teacher, "Rus Cooper-Dowda" is mentioned in a 11/6/03 news article (linked below). At one time she was in what doctors incorrectly decided was a vegetative state and planned to remove her feeding tube too. http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-usschi023527678nov06,0,3738951.story?coll=ny-health-headlines Disabled Rally Around Terri Schiavo By Hugo Kugiya STAFF WRITER November 6, 2003 Unable to speak and barely able to move, Rus Cooper-Dowda could do little to prevent her death. Only 30, she had developed a serious form of lupus that had left her in what doctors incorrectly thought was a vegetative state. She knew the doctors and nurses had all but given up on her because she could still hear. She said later that she listened to them describe her prognosis as hopeless. They said that she would never live a normal life and that if she took a turn for the worse, no extraordinary measures should be attempted to save her life. Contrary to their expectations, Cooper-Dowda, now 48, survived. Over the years, she recovered some use of her body, earned a graduate degree and gave birth to a son who recently entered college. Doctors couldn't explain why her condition got so bad 18 years ago, nor why it improved so much, she said. Which is why she thinks Terri Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged St. Petersburg, Fla., woman, should be helped, not left to die. "People say she'll never fully recover," said Cooper-Dowda, a writer and teacher from Florida. "My feeling is, 'So what?' There is something between death and full recovery, and it's called living with a disability." She is one of many disabled people who see Schiavo as a cause mirroring their own, even if their medical circumstances differ. (Cooper-Dowda was incapacitated for months, not 13 years like Schiavo.) Individually, they have spoken out. Last week, they took a collective stand. "This is a real scary prospect for us, because there are lots of disabled people who can't communicate verbally," said Andy Imparato, president of the American Association of People with Disabilities. Imparato and association board members, with the blessing of other disabled rights groups, released a written statement condemning the court's decision to allow Michael Schiavo to remove his wife's feeding tube. Such action should be confined, the statement said, "to those situations in which an individual's condition is terminal, death is imminent and any continuation or provision of treatment, nutrition and/or hydration would only serve to prolong dying ... " "No one other than Ms. Schiavo, not even a guardian, has the right to make assumptions about the quality of her life," the statement continued. While Schiavo's case has been seen largely as an issue of the sanctity of life versus personal choice, of conservative against liberal, of religious values against secular ones, the concerns of disabled people are more nuanced and personal and do not depend so much on politics or ideology. "To us, it's more complex," Imparato said. Although doctors disagree on her condition, a state court determined that Schiavo, 39, is in an irreversible and permanent vegetative state. After her husband received permission to remove her feeding tube, her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, harnessing the momentum of public outcry, convinced lawmakers and the governor to help. In less than 48 hours, the Legislature passed a bill giving Gov. Jeb Bush the authority to order the tube replaced, which he did Oct. 21. Michael Schiavo is fighting the law in court, charging that it interfered with his wife's right to refuse medical treatment and that it violated the state constitution by passing a law that defied a court order. While she was incapacitated, Cooper-Dowda tried to communicate by writing in the air with her finger. When she heard doctors discussing the removal of life support, she tried to spell the word "no." She even spelled it backward in hopes they would recognize it as a word. Doctors decided her movement was seizure activity and sedated her. The more she moved, the more she was sedated. Finally, a nurse became curious and put ink on the end of Cooper-Dowda's finger, so she could write the letter Y or N, for yes and no. "It's still terrifying how close I came to death," Cooper-Dowda said, "because of all the assumptions someone else made about the quality of my life. ... When someone says, 'I wouldn't want to live like that,' it's believing it will never happen to you. When it does, it's not a bad life or a useless life. It's a changed life." Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc. ___________________________________________ Contact the Pinellas County School Board: Open to Public: Anyone can speak for 3 minutes by signing a speaker's slip by 4:45 pm. Signs without sticks are permitted. Address: Pinellas County School Administration Building Conference Hall 301 4th Street SW Largo, Florida 33770 Televised live with reruns on WPDS GTE Americast channel 14 Time Warner Channel 14 If you want to protest: Board@pcsb.org 727-586-1818 Pinellas County School Board 301 4th St. SW Largo, FL 33770 Members of the Pinellas County School Board: Dr. J. Howard Hinesley Superintendent Jane Gallucci Chair Carol Cook Vice-Chair Board Member most likey to be unhappy about this: Linda Lerner Rest of Board: Mary Russell Nancy Bostock Mary Brown Lee Benjamin We still have a lot to be thankful for! Let us hold an attitude of gratitude and appreciation for all who are working to save precious lives! - Including Terri's! Terri's Links http://heavenlyhands.net/terrislinks.html
Here a teacher gets fired for forwarding or responding to an e-mail (County and school policy mandates that anything offensive, whether it be in the lunch room or the class room can be considered a means for dismissal)
» Jonnie Hargis, an employee at the Young Research Library at UCLA, received an e-mail from co-worker Michelle Torre that was sent to other employees at the library. The e-mail contains "America: The Good Neighbor," a speech written by Canadian Gordon Sinclair in the early 1970's. Hargis responded to the e-mail by calling into question U.S. support of policies by Israel against Palestinians. Hargis was subsequently suspended without pay for 5 days for violating a policy that forbids sending unsolicited e-mails containing political, religious or patriotic messages to library department lists. That policy was created the same day that Hargis was suspended and Torre received no disciplinary action. Hargis' union has since filed a grievance with the University
http://www.ncac.org/issues/freeex911.cfm
Keep in mind Petron, I am citing not just those that have been let go for voicing political beliefs in support of Conservative issues but also those teachers that have been dismissed for supporting Liberal issues.
I suppose you may turn this around and say 'yes, but I asked about the words being specifically exchanged in the "lunchroom"'
Colorado Hearing: Evidence that History Professors Are Biased
From frontpagemag.com (Feb. 6, 2004):
Last June, David Horowitz visited Colorado and suggested to lawmakers that an Academic Bill of Rights was needed to protect students from faculty abuses. In the months that followed, Students for Academic Freedom Clubs were formed across the state and began gathering evidence of these abuses.
Colorado Senate President John Andrews then sent a letter to every college president in the state asking them to provide statements describing their protections for students and detailing any problems on their campuses.
At the same time, he convened an ad hoc legislative committee to hear from students and faculty members about whether academic freedom is adequately being protected on state-supported colleges and universities. The hearings were held on December 18.
Despite the fact that the hearings took place when most universities were in the midst of final exams, more than 30 students showed up to testify. Congregating on the third floor committee room in the Colorado State Capitol, they were joined by media representatives, college administrators, legislators, and members of the public at large.
Frontpagemag.com has obtained transcripts of this two-and-a-half-hour hearing. They reveal an environment of bias and hostility towards conservative viewpoints on Colorado campuses. We see many examples: a professor insisting that student Republicans withdraw from the Political Science Association; a professor teaching one-sided history class in which students were told that Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were "martyrs" and that Stalin was a victim of U.S. persecution; a student skipping classes out of fear of the professor's tactic of ridiculing and humiliating conservative students in front of the class, and so on.
Readers can decide for themselves whether an Academic Bill of Rights is in order for Colorado schools . - Editors
ANNE CLODFELTER: I would like to thank the committee and the president and the senators' representatives for listening to my statement. I'd just like to read something I wrote up. I am a sophomore from Metro State College and I am currently pursuing a history major. I am working towards a career as a historian, researcher, or even a college professor and I am concerned about the level of liberal bias towards lawmakers and presidents in history that I see in my school. Those professors are excellent teachers and it is a pleasure to be taught by them. However, some professors see the classroom as an instrument with which to liberally indoctrinate the students. The professor has, in my American History, in the fall semester of 2003, was a very qualified teacher.
At that time, there was no room in her class for conservative points of view. Every day, she used the classroom as a sounding board and she insulted the president whose policies are those of Republican lawmakers. One day she got up in front of the class and told us that the president could not be an historian and be a Republican. This hurt me very much because I am a conservative and I want to be a historian. Another time, she got up in front of the class and said that President Bush started the Iraqi war because he got a hard-on. I thought this was a very inappropriate way to be talking about the president. Instead of spending on history, my professor spends a significant amount of time lecturing on current programs of the Republicans and the president. When my peers or I tried arguing and tried to question or argue against her ideas, she ridiculed them, leaving the person feeling humiliated in front of the class. One of my more outspoken conservative peers began skipping classes because as she told the teacher, she was afraid to come to class.
The teacher refused to acknowledge the student's fears. The political talk is one thing, I would not have to deal with her after the class is over, but I had a hard time dealing with political bias towards history. The books she chose for the class called President Reagan's philosophy on the use of tax cuts to boost the economy, quote, “a naïve plan.” When tax cuts worked to boost the economy, the book stated it was, quote, “Good luck.” The book and the teacher portrayed the Rosenberg's as martyrs, and Stalin and his successors in the Soviet Union as persecuted by the United States. This bias towards history affected me as a history major because I want to leave college with an understanding of the conservative viewpoints of history as well as the liberal ones. I want to get the whole picture.
I am deeply discouraged about the idea of becoming a college professor because of what I see on campus. The severe lack of conservative faculty at my college and the way the conservative faculty is treated have led me to believe that I will have a hard time finding a position if I do decide to become a college professor. I have given serious thought about teaching at the collegiate level, but currently I do not see this as a realistic possibility until hiring and firing practices is free from discrimination. The majority of professors on campus are good teachers, they leave their biases out of the classroom. College professors like the one I had this Fall need to be made accountable for their statements and how it affects their students. Professors are already made accountable for how they treat minority students in their classrooms. I do not think that the way they treat students with different political affiliations should be any different.
SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Of course you recognize that a history text or any book of history that takes a dissembling view about the history of the Cold War or the effect of Reagan's economic policies has just as much right in the curriculum as any other book. You recognize that, don't you ma'am?
ANNE CLODFELTER: Yes.
SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: You mentioned hiring and firing practices needing to be free of discrimination in order for a student like yourself to want to pursue a career in teaching in higher education. Do you have any firsthand instances or specifics that would make you believe there is such discrimination, because the written policy summary submitted to me by all the presidents emphasize that there is not supposed to be any such discrimination on the basis of one's political or religious beliefs in being hired, fired or promoted in the faculty? Do you have anything to the contrary that would be specific?
ANNE CLODFELTER: How I see they have treated, the way they treated this professor and also how I have seen that there are not a lot of conservative faculty and I'm just thinking that just as many conservative faculty would want to be teachers as liberal faculty, and I just think that, I mean, some people think that most liberals would want to be teachers, but I still think that there should be more conservative faculty, but…
SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Thank you.
ANNE CLODFELTER: It just seems like it...
SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Yes, Representative Paccione.
REPRESENTATIVE PACCIONE: Thank you, Mr. President. I'm just curious to know how you know the number of conservative faculty in the university?
SENATOR JOHN ANDREWS: Anne?
ANNE CLODFELTER: All the teachers I've had so far seem to have a very liberal point of view. I even had a teacher that has come up to me and had a conservative point of view. They all seem to have, they made quotes about the president, quotes about politics, just on the side, usually on the side, with the students just offhand remarks that pretty much dictates that they are liberal faculty and so far I haven't had a teacher that hadn't done that and now it just gives me pretty much a perspective that none of them are conservative.
SENATOR ANDREWS: Let me just point out one other thing I heard you say. You had mentioned having to sit in a classroom and listen to insults against the President and members of Congress and State Legislatures and I can't speak for Congress and the president, but we as state legislators are fairly well insult-proof here, so not a concern. http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/3381.html
I never even heard about any of that Pid and I live in Pinellas County.
Good example of administrators and school boards silencing those they disagree with.
All across America, teachers and administrators are getting away with propagandizing students...in the classrooms.
On college campuses, professors are dishing out a steady stream of leftist twaddle disguised as education and taking punitive actions against anyone in the class who dares voice a differing opinion.
Conservative speakers are discouraged by administration or banned outright. Student protests of conservative speakers are organized and led by activist professors and administration is mum.
Leftist BS can't stand even the slightest examination or review. Their only option is to silence any dissent and that's exactly the way it works in socialist and communist societies. They execute dissenters.
In the US, leftist professors retaliate with failing grades or attempts to browbeat students into submission to their bullsh*t.
There have been attempts by leftists to silence dissent from their leftist twaddle here too. Unsuccessfully.
Surprising this can't even be discussed with another adult or teacher.
ok well im not going to accuse her of lying, but according to this the official reason cited for her being fired was not for supporting terri schiavo.........(no where do i see her claim it was about views critical of the u.s. government).......
quote:(CNSNews.com) - A Pinellas County, Fla., teacher -- who is disabled and works with disabled students- - claims she is being fired because she voiced her support for another disabled Florida woman: Terri Schindler Schiavo.Rus Cooper-Dowda told CNSNews.com Wednesday morning that the Pinellas County School Board voted six-to-one to fire her Tuesday night, citing "job performance" as the reason. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200312%5CCUL20 031210b.html
Rus Cooper-Dowda told CNSNews.com Wednesday morning that the Pinellas County School Board voted six-to-one to fire her Tuesday night, citing "job performance" as the reason. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200312%5CCUL20 031210b.html
also i would note....if you go back to the terri schaivo case, youll see that it was a republican judge, a bush appointed, republican majority apeals court for florida and a republican florida supreme court who judged 'terris law' unconstitutional.....and who condemned terri to death before the issue went to the u.s. supreme court ......
quote:It was a conservative Republican judge, Stanley Birch, appointed to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals by former President George H.W. Bush, who said this week that Congress and the current President Bush had exceeded constitutional bounds with a law that told courts how to review the Schiavo case. And it was a Supreme Court with a 7-2 Republican majority that repeatedly spurned pleas by Schiavo's parents to reconnect her feeding tube. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/02/MNG8FC2B0S1.DTL
also if you remember, people who you deride here as 'leftist twits' or whatever, like rainbow and myself, were completely on the side of terri schiavo....... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001151.html so perhaps that isnt a great example.......
on the other hand....you did provide another clear example of a teacher being suspended specifically for views critical of the u.s. government......
quote:I know of some Canadian history, civics teachers who've freely discussed this topic in their classrooms...and yes with their students. Surprising this can't even be discussed with another adult or teacher
Yes, it IS surprising isn't it, DayDreamer?
The "thought police" are keeping a close eye on us....and it's getting scarier and scarier....
Some don't notice, though....they acclimate easily to the narrowing latitude and restraints occuring here due to the "social engineering" we've been subjected to...*sigh*
I wonder just how far this will go before freedom lovers will start to notice? *sigh*
Love and Respect for ALL. ...
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No Easter Bunny?
No Tooth fairy?
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